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After 5 days, I finally finish reading this thread. I dun have much experience with VN gal, just a brief encounter (no hanky panky) a few years ago (I think 2003-2004) which I will relate here.

At that time, I visited HCMC with some Japanese colleagues and they like to go to lounges, a bit like the type of KTV in Cuppage minus the actual karaoke. So when we arrived, a girl was assigned to each guy, the lounge is quite brightly lit, so no hanky panky stuff. In my mind, I was quite aware that VN is still a communist place and I read that you are not allowed to bring girls into hotels, yes, I read up before going there..thought I can do some cheonging.

Anyway, the girl that was assigned to me was a university student (she said) studying english..(dunno if they all used the same line), so after chit-chat, the night ended and we exchanged phone nos. Went back to hotel and sleep. The next day was a free day for me, so I called her and she seem quite happy to get my call. Since I was new to HCMC, I asked her to come and meet me at my hotel. At that time, I think I was staying in New World Hotel (opposite a huge park), dunno if the name is correct or not. I did not have any ulterior motive (like getting into her pants) because I was still very skeptical about the whole communist thing. I was just trying to kill some time before my flight back to SG in the evening. She came about noon time and we went across to a small restaurant to have some lunch.

After that, we went back to my hotel and I brought her to my room for chit chat, but she had to register at the front desk first (it was daylight). Anyway, went to my room and I was not sure what will happen. While she sat on the bed, I sat on the sofa and we chit chat for a while. I did not dare to make any advances, not sure what would happen. Actually, I was more afraid that if I touched her, she may cry rape or something, then I will be in deep shit. So, nothing happened in the end.

After about 20mins chit-chat and showing her the view from my hotel room window, we got down and had a drink at the lobby. We even got the bellboy to take some photos of us.

Soon, it was time for me to leave to airport and we said goodbye. I took a cab and she left on her motorcycle. We promised to keep in touch by e-mail which we did.

A few months later, I was in HCMC again and contacted her. This time, she showed me around HCMC on her motorcycle. Quite a scary experience for someone like me, riding pillion on her motorcycle..Singapore's traffic is so organised compared to HCMC..:)

Again, this trip ended with nothing. I never had a chance to go HCMC again for work and so it remained as that, however 2 years back, she still send me some e-mail and said that she is now working in Korean company.

My questions are :-
1. Although I met her at a lounge, she does not seem to be WL (selling sex) type. Is it true that there are students who work at these kind of Japanese lounges ?
2. Would it have been possible for me to bonk her at the 1st time when she was in my room ? How to negotiate the price ?
3. I would think that a conservative VN gal would not go to another guy's room or could it be she's looking for foreigner bf ?
4. How can you detect whether a VN gal is willing to go all the way with you ?

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Thanks bro.

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Yup, you got the name of the hotel right...When we were walking past that hotel, my friend was telling me no ppl from SG would want to stay in that hotel after a hotel with the same name collapsed in SG and he would not agree to stay at the hotel even if I were to treat him.:)

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Not true... a lot of SG stay there.

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I can't answer Qns 1 and 2 cos I have never step on VN soil before.. (pls stop laughing :p)

3) The question of conservative and looking for foreign bf is two seperate issue. When you get the first two answers you will have this answer. But it is true many are interested to get foriegn bf.

4) You spent too little time with her to determine this.

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personally, I agree with your observation.
so, coming VN national day will be your virgin trip to VN soil ? :rolleyes:

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yah, actually that hotel is not bad-leh..the buffet breakfast was very sumptuous and rooms also quite big.

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No. Asking for the national day Qns was for something else.
But Vietnam soil sooner of later have to step on it, cannot avoid.
Meet the parents.

She may need to delay another 2 weeks before coming over as there are some important errands to run. If it is that case then I may as well go over after next week. Moreover, masturbation has becomes too boring. :(
But go over show my face sure cannot empty handed. Already prepared to burn some money. But now dun go in near future sure must go. It is a respect to her and her parents.

Bo pian eh, want to marry foreign wife is like that. Hopefully she makes a good wife.

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1. Yes, alot of student or office lady works as part time FL.
2. Yes, this is possible if the price is right and the gal wanted it.
3. Yes, this depends and she waiting for your signal or move. If you want to go for it then there is a price to it or she may give it to you free for future development...
4. This is tough and really depends how much both of you developed from here. There is a lot of posts indirectly related to this point. A few questions you may want to consider, ie.. a) can you accept that she continues to work as FL...b) how often you fly in to see her....c) if she needs money then how, are you willing to support her financially...

My two cents worth...

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Bro, some years back, New World Hotel and Caravelle Hotel are two of the best hotels around HCM City. Good location and 5 stars. Staying there is not cheap also. Nowadays, there are more choices. Even with more choices, New World Hotel is not cheap. Our New World and their New World are totally different. ;)

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Bro, let me try to answer yr questions to the best of my ability and experiences in Vietnam.
(1) There are mainly 2 types of WL around. 1st type can seat with you and can bonk. 2nd type only seat with you. Although most bros will claim that sooner and later, the seat only type will also be able to bonk. Yes, many office ladies (normal Office ladies, not those that earn more) and students work in the bars.
(2) You try to make the first move lor. If she doesn't resist, then go all out. Why negotiate the price when the process is on going, pay her an amount which you think is reasonable after that. ST can pay her around 1 million VND, most of the time, the gals are alright.
(3) Yes, a conservative gal will not go to the hotel room of another man. All vietnamese know that only WL goes to hotel room of foreigners and they hate to be asked for their ID at the hotel reception.
(4) Let's put it simply, if the gal is willing to go to yr room is a good 1st sign. After that, try to get close to her in the room. If she is unwilling, then forget it. or else, kiss her, strip her and fuck her upside down.. hehehe :D

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hahaha. struggling to learn thier language. Chance upon this 2 good Viet songs while chaepskate-ing for free online learning.

Dun know the age of it but I tot i share it here. Cheers:

YouTube - Vang Trang Khoc - Nhat Tinh Anh & Khanh Ngoc

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=YOEbY-9PKiI

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Add to that that many "ladies" will tease up the men to extreme, just to get some small things here and there. When I first arrived in VN, I had a lot of girls very "friendly", sometimes discussing about their underwears, or making some jokes, etc...

They were working colleagues, sounded promising. In fact sex in VN, or promises of possible sex is a commercial good most of the time. You can have a lot of girl friends that will never be girlfriends but always leave the suspense. They want something out of you, that's it.

If you go too far, they will talk about their 'darling' or boyfriend, that they are not happy, but they are serious, so maybe in the future, but now nonono!

You can invite them for coffee, dinner, all kind of bullshit, but the tradition is that 'they must be virgin before wedding', or they have a boyfriend, or it is not the 'vietnamese style' to go further. At the same time, you think they are good girls, but they get screwed every evening by their vietnamese boyfriends of course.

In fact, I worked with many young ladies, and most of them were debonked by their boyfriend when they were 15 or less years old.

If you work in the medical field, you find out two things. Most 15-25 years old women who can have childrens are aborted every other year or so, sometimes yearly, sometimes twice or 3 times a year ! It is extremely rare that a 40 years old woman has not been aborted mecanically 4 or 5 times times. They are extremely careless, and most do it bareback. Usually they came with their best girl friend, or their mother, the remaining of the family does not want to know, and will deny of course. When I discussed with people here, the girls go to be aborted by cureting like we go to drink a cup of coffee, it is unimportant, takes 15-30 minutes, and that's done. I know some that have been aborted every 3-4 months.

Second, there are plenty of dirty clinics or better to say private butcher houses (for the experts in Ha Noi, there is one in Ba Trieu) that makes first the abortions, some months old is still fine, they do not care, and second they rebuild the hymen so the girls are virgin again.

I have seen extensive damage from thoses clinics as well. If I say that, it's because I hate the fact that many ladies are very very easy with their vietnamese boyfriend, but when it comes to a foreigner, they think they have to play a kind of conservative-vietnamese tradition 'don't touch me' game.

So far for the 'virgins in Viet Nam'. Many play that with non-vietnamese men to let to believe that they are serious, but I have yet to see one really very serious vietnamese girl, public and private.

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Talking about bonking and virgin vietnam gal... my galfriend say her neighbour is very poor and neighbour got a young gal, age i not very sure.. 15, 16 or 18. The young gal wanna sell her virgin to have money to go oversea (sg/hk/malaysia) and support family. But they dunno where to sell. My galfriend also dunno where.

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Thats easy. U told your gf that neighbours shd help one another. Since the gal needs help, u volunteer to help her by buying :D