Originally Posted by slaughter (Post 3388736)

so, erm, sorry if i keep repeating but there's no one who knows of anywhere that offers viet lessons in sg? :confused:

once again, i really thank all bros for the 'advice' (lol) and i hope someday i can contribute my experience too. this is really a great thread and forum that teaches many of us valuable lessons. :cool:

Originally Posted by slaughter (Post 3388736)

so, erm, sorry if i keep repeating but there's no one who knows of anywhere that offers viet lessons in sg?

Originally Posted by SingViet (Post 3389114)

after 326 pages of discussion about vietnamese life partner, let's take a short 5 mins break. For my fellow bros, something from china.

Originally Posted by jackbl (Post 3390784)

Hi, I am negoitating with some students/adult who can teach vietnamese to us here in sgp. I will post the info in the "Tieng Viet Lovers Club" thread. Do check out there for updates.

Originally Posted by technofreak (Post 3390806)

Originally Posted by jackbl (Post 3390784)

Hi, I am negoitating with some students/adult who can teach vietnamese to us here in sgp. I will post the info in the "Tieng Viet Lovers Club" thread. Do check out there for updates :)

Originally Posted by slaughter (Post 3390598)

bro how to get those contacts who are willing to do this? and how much will it cost? any lobang? :D

Originally Posted by casannova03 (Post 3390684)

Hmm, bro you really wanna do this? My own personal opinion is that its not very good....

From my understanding of your postings so far I hve a limited opinion but i feel you should use this as a last resort or if you sense or have found out something fishy about her..

First, has she done anything or said anything that cause you suspicion? If yes, then its definitely worth a check on her.

My opinion is that since you've mentioned that she is not a Wl, it puts her on a better platform with which to start a relationship. Nevertheless, like what other bros have mentioned earlier, you need to get to know her better. My advice is to get to know her better via your own efforts and not thru a third party.

I dunno really how to put it but i feel that once you have get to know someone for a period of time, you tend to be able to tell if she is lying or being evasive about things, when you talk. You dun really have to get a PI.

If she really did hide something from you and its found out, then that really justifies your decision and you dun really care if she knows about it (you getting someone to spy on her).

However, if it turns out that she is innocent and she has not done anything behind your back, AND SHE FINDS OUT ABOUT IT!!!:eek: Then i would think that she will end the relationship with you without so much as giving you a chance to explain...Vietnamese gals' pride are quite high! so if you have managed to damage it, i dun see how you will be able to repair it, without a mammoth effort.

So it will be prudent to ask yourself if the situation between you and her now, at this point in time, really justifies the engaging of a PI. If smell something fishy and you'll getting married soon, then by all means, go ahead.

But if its just your own insecurity at work, due to the fact that both of you are apart for a long time, and you dun feel comfortable and she haven done or said anything to cause suspicion, and you'll in no rush to get married, then i think its better to know her better PERSONALLY.

Hope my thoughts helps and sorry if it doesn't! ;)

Originally Posted by ekemono (Post 3392655)

Honestly bro, if you have so much doubt to the extend of getting someone to spy on her, why dun you let go and move on?
Even if you have found nothing this time, what about next time when she marries you, be in SG and while you are at work? Will you be suspicious of other new things as well?

Hope I didn't offend you.

Originally Posted by slaughter (Post 3394107)

well, honestly the explanation she gave me was (if you read the message bros translated for me) that guy who sms her is her good friend's boyfriend. her girlfriend's phone was lost and so she lent her the phone to communicate with the boyfriend.

from what i saw, the number that smsed her wasn't even saved in the phone book. but seeing such a msg really worries me. wouldn't you all feel the same? well.. probably hiring pi is a little to extreme. i just wanted to find out how is it possible and roughly how to get it done if there's a need to. for now, like i mentioned earlier, i'm going along with trusting her. :)

Originally Posted by SingViet (Post 3394175)

I won't want pour cold water on this issue. Such excuses are much too common. i have heard too many of such excuses and explanation. I am quite skeptical about yr gal's explanation. But nevertheless, she's yr gal and you choose what's yr take. ;)

Originally Posted by slaughter (Post 3394282)

yes i understand what you're talking about bro. in your opinion, i should get a pi to follow her?

Originally Posted by SingViet (Post 3394307)

Firstly, u are not local. Its not easy for you to get a PI there. Secondaly, if you found out that she has been cheating, how will you feel? ;)

Originally Posted by slaughter (Post 3394320)

erm. that's why need your help and advice ma. if she's really cheating on me, of course will be heartbroken.. but if let me choose early know or later know i rather choose early know. i don like to run away from reality.

Originally Posted by FL Lover (Post 3395797)

Bro, been through wht you have gone through. Even if the phone number is not saved in the hp, it does not means nothing had happened at all. You see sometimes it is not advisable to save hp numbers in yor hp esp those that u do not want yor OC or steads to see. As long as you can remb the hp numbers, really no issues at all. :D

As for the smses, can be deleted easily once you have read it.

Now is the time to ask yourself. How well do you really know yor girl?

It is better to get things clear up at least before you commited to her. Once married, there are more problems to handle if you discovered her to be unfaithful to you.

Originally Posted by slaughter (Post 3394320)

erm. that's why need your help and advice ma. if she's really cheating on me, of course will be heartbroken.. but if let me choose early know or later know i rather choose early know. i don like to run away from reality.

Originally Posted by Honey Boon (Post 3395949)

bro, from my own observations, almost all viet girls will lie, from the start. Reasons: to "con" you, to "win" your heart first. So don't believe those love sms like I miss you, I love you. I always tell the girl, before 10 years, don't talk about love. Along the way, if you are lucky, they will cut down the lies if they start to trust you. So is a long process, daily changes. Sometimes, after "long" period, they will still lie, claiming that they do it because for your own good, don't want you to worry and sad.... any excuse la for the so called "white lies".

I am not so sure about other parts of the world, but I do travel to SEA countries from the past 20 years due to work committments. I would say the viet girls, champion in telling grandfather stories. The root of the problem: the viet men. The viet girls are always the victims in thier own country when comes to relationship or love. So the girls learn to protect themselves by telling lies. So is in born ....:(

I might be too bias, not all viet girls are like dat. But majority .. I hope i am not offending some brothers here who have viet partners. Just my own two dongs. :D

Originally Posted by Hurricane88 (Post 3396002)

hahaha...telling lies is their way of life in Vn...:)