[SEAJ]

Oh WOW – thank you for your long detailed reply, which I for the most part totally agree with, but just want to point a few things out.

Originally Posted by nono1973

Thank you once again for your compliment. And thx for sharing the DOs and DONTs of a thread too. From my opinion,it really depends on the title of a thread as well as the title of the Forum holding the Thread. ……..
http://sammythe.guru/showthread.php?t=66580

Please note that there are many other threads with similarly focused titled too, but most if not all also at times veer off to other directions/directions; which IMHO is perfectly OK, if it does not degenerate into quarrels, or worse, the thread being hijacked by nefarious characters with their own evil agendas i.e. stealth agents who keeps on snaring newbies into their cons etc.

In fact, I’d suggest that anybody who’d insist that all threads MUST follow certain topics/format is not only dreaming, he’s actually limiting others from discussing topics that’s of interest; what’s wrong with more participation? No problem if a guy wants to STEER towards WHATEVER topic he wants to discuss by posting up his own questions etc. – but to insist that the title topic must be strictly followed? Really? And I’ve seen many threads with several topics all being discussed at the same time.

And if you say that this makes it hard for readers to then get to the meat/information they’re after, welllll…. Just look at this thread itself….1,767 pages! It’s gonna happen one way or the other!!

Ok,now comes the part from the senior's point. ………? No wonder the seniors are mostly pizzed ….. Not fair from the eye of the senior's point of view,isn't it?

Why pissed? If he don’t want to reply, then he shouldn’t!
And not turn the thread into a battleground where he’s asserting his “ownership” just because he had contributed to it in the past. I always say that a poster is only as good as his last post!

Now comes the attitude of me being a newbie asking questions. When i ask a question,am i demanding that my question be answered? ……...

This is of course a problem in most forums – newbies OR WHOEVER asserting their supposed “rights” or whatever…whilst it’s only the owners who has ALL the rights!

Now comes the part of Spoiling the playground. The whole world ………..

My solution,as i move along in Batam,i noted down my trails with guides for an easier navigation ………..

First Timer Batam Walk-Through Guide from a Batam Newbie's view

And my kudos to you for coming up with this guide….which brings up the question as to why in the world would seniors here actually state that they are NOT willing to share their knowledge with others here.
If they’re not gonna share with us, then what’s the point for them to be on here? What, just to tell everybody that they’re so full of knowledge, such a Taikor and that everybody else must kowtow to them? And if they really ARE wanting others to NOT spoil their playground, shouldn’t they instead inform others how to NOT become carrot head by fully disclosing what are the prices, which places are good and deserve to be patronized etc?

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Now,let's get back to the title of the thread as mention above in 1st paragraph. If this thread is not name as Batam Info Thread but instead the TS …………..s.

As previously, NOBODY owns a thread except Boss – period! And just because a thread is titled one way or the other, it’s unrealistic to expect that such topic must strictly be adhered to as conversations have a tendency to always veer off, which like I said, IMHO, nothing wrong with that.

Hehehe...while i do understand where you are coming from when you talk about thread ownership, still i need to share my point of view with you : In real life this is the internet world and we are in a public Forum,other than the owner/administrators who pays for the Forum,nobody actually owns anything here. Get pass this point and one will feel better.

I always remember long ago someone did say this,while sharing is caring...but indiscreet sharing can be scary. And i agreed.

Totally agree and I always say – that anybody and everybody have the right to say, do, post anything and everything they like.

No skin off my nose, but I still hate it when somebody organize others to gang-up against ANYBODY, and then muster up armies of clones to mass zap – very usually anonymously – and zap the innocent/hapless victim to oblivion. I question the motivation of these people who would take the trouble to actually do such things on here - IMHO, must NOT be anything good.

SEAJ