Originally Posted by atoll
Sorry to hear of your bad experience. You were probably unlucky, and had too high an expectation by comparing your experience in China and Philippines.
Choosing a lady at Soapy can be hit or miss. Even the ladies that smile and wink at you may turn out to be starfish in bed. On the other hand, those that don't appear interested may be the ones that provide GFE. One way that the locals always do is to ask the girl seat with them for a while, chat with them and see if there's any chemistry. It's also one way to know whether you can communicate with the girl, esp if you can't speak much thai. You can always reject the girl, but I know most wouldn't cos too pai seh.
In Nataree, once you choose the girl, the papasan always push you to go upstairs. At other MPs, the papasan will leave u alone with the girl to chat for a while, if you want to. Bottom line: just go MP to relax and get serviced. Any GFE is a bonus. If you meet one that provides good service and GFE, can always ask for her Line. Tell her next time u go MP will look for her. The FLs only need to work 2-3 times a week, so if you are tourist, you may not find her again at the MP. If you want, can always ask to meet up, but don't meet up and expect a free session; these girls work in the line for a living.
As for Thermae, always engage ST first, ask to go back to your hotel. If you find there's chemistry, can always negotiate LT. She'll more likely agree if she likes you, or she too lazy to go back café, and less likely to come up with excuses to go back. Anyway, many Thermae girls work as part-time, they have a full-time job during daytime, so unlikely to stay too long.
As for Agogo girls, the prettier girls normally don't do LT. It's a transaction for them. They simply earn more doing multiple ST. Of course there are always exceptions that the 'ang pai' ones will go LT eg. feel bored, meet target so want to go out for fun, you look like carrot, you hansome etc. Lastly, 2hrs is still considered ST, unless it is for 2 shots, then maybe 4K baht would be reasonable.
Problem with agogo is you need to negotiate clearly what you are paying for. My first agogo experience I almost got into trouble cos I didn't bargain properly. Booked a girl for LT, told her we'll go clubbing, then she go back with me and stay till morning. Ended up go back hotel, 1 shot and she wanted to leave at 2am. Refused to pay LT since I said she didn't keep to her agreement and paid ST prices. After long heated argument, she stormed off. Next day, I went back to the bar and was threatened by the bouncer who wanted to beat me up. Fortunately, the owner allowed me to explain what happened. In the end, the owner realized it was a misunderstanding and told me I should have negotiated properly; I should have told her LT means 2 shots or if want to stay till morning, tell her the earliest time she can leave.
Chionging in BKK is still cheaper than China, but more ex than Philippines. For first timers, just need to be careful not to be fleeced. I still find chionging in BKK the most interesting.... there's so many mongering places to go and within close proximity. Don't need to be Jedi knight, just need to make sure don't let small head rule big head.
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