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Originally Posted by TomMAffolter
no it doesnt damage my "business" but i dont do free vietnamese lessons, just as you dont work for free teaching english...just because i comment here shouldnt mean i HAVE to teach, or do I?...but i remember you saying you dont need to learn vietnamese..as to you comment abt the cafe, sheesh u should know by now that anything a girl says shouldnt be taken seriously unless u seen it with your own two eyes, i know u have lived here for a very long time but i dont think you have adopted vietnamese attitude towards loose truths, but her saying that abt her friend could mean a whole range of things ie she a slut, she has had many "bf", or it could just be a bold faced insult...take a normal girl to those dj cafes and the normal girl will call every girl there gai goi....and thats not even counting the things she thinks about you eg morally bankrupt for going to such places....and gai goi the meaning if taken in its literal meaning is girl call...the meaning should be taken in its context...why are u treating vietnamese differently than english where a words meaning is also interpreted within a contextual environment...ok this lesson is for free
so what does trai bao, di duc, cave, con dao, con di mean then? if you think gai goi means something specifically, so what would u call a girl working is a brothel, or a girl working in a bia om, or a street walker....shit man on this tread silence is golden
ps i forgot..wendella will it hurt your business if YOU get off your fat ass and go out and actually learn something or find something out for yourself rather expect others to share with you JUST because they have greater ability and capacity..seems u think you are entitled to something from me just because YOU dont know and i DO
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I get your point, but actually I regularly do free English lessons, even as far as buying someone a good book and CD and starting them off on it. If it's ok let me skip the criticisms, that's all old stuff we've been over before. A bit boring for us and others here I think by now.
But about the girl in the cafe, ok, well, no she was quite specific about it. She told me that the girl in question had gone out to a hotel with a customer, was there right now, and would be back soon. Then she asked me if I still want to meet her. (I had met and talked with that one on earlier visit). As we talked more, I asked if girls here go to hotels with customers, she said Yes. But I wasn't sure if she meant all or some or any, so I asked if SHE did. (cuz honestly she was quite tempting herself) She firmly said No, she only works in the cafe and talks to customers. And she told me she was quitting, going back to the country side because she couldn't tolerate working there any more, felt lonely and depressed in HCMC, missed her family and friends from home. She said she often felt disrespected working there, some words she used were 'customers treated her like cheap stuff' and I asked to give an example how they did that, she said they always asked her to go to a hotel.
So yeah ok I didn't describe the context in the forum, but now that you know what she said, it doesn't seem ambiguous. If there is any doubt, it would be like you said, if she just really hates her coworker and is smearing her with a lie, that the girl is not really a hooker. But for sure, I went back a few times to that cafe, and the girl in question was often missing, not working when she was supposed to be. Once I texted her and she replied she was out 'di choi'. And once I was in the cafe (see above) when she returned to the cafe, around 9:30pm or so. I had been there about an hour.
Honestly if it is true that this is what's going on here, this is a first for me.
and the girl I talked with, very different. Much more serious than other girls, and she would look at you right in the eye for uncomfortably long time. On my last visit there before she stopped working there, she (out of the blue) asked me "did you have a sad childhood?"