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Originally Posted by BFOMF5
In Batam you don't need a license to sell Sim or do top up services
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Ok, but this is not my point. Just remove "license" from my sentence:
most civil countries now require registration of users for each SIM card sold, but this registration is something that is done quickly by the same small shop which sells SIM cards. Also in Singapore, when I bought my last SIM cards, I had to provide my passport to the seller: he entered my data in the system, made a photocopy of passport, and that was all. Hassle free.
It is obscure to me why in Indonesia the same shop which sells the SIM card cannot also register the number. Or, to say it better, if unlicensed people can sell SIM cards in pasar, why not to allow larger shops to access the database to register the SIM cards when they sell it?
The bottleneck is exactly this one: only GraPARI can register cards, while hundreds thousand cards need to be registered.
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Originally Posted by BFOMF5
For me I think it is simple if you know how to go aroun it
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Maybe you did not read the second half of my post, where I explain the procedure required by Telkomsel.
No way it could be named "simple", and I don't think you have a secret way to access the Telkomsel database system.
If your secret way "to go around it" is to use the ID of some Indonesian, be careful that each individual can register up to 3 SIM cards.
Using the ID of an Indonesian can work only if
a) EITHER you have many friends not interested to register 1 or 2 SIM cards for their own purposes,
b) OR you are not interested to register more than 1 SIM card.
If you case is not one of the above, you have to use your data.
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Originally Posted by BFOMF5
If they willing to use someone's info to register.
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As I explained in the second part of my post, my sentence
"They can help for registration for locals, using the Indonesian ID card number, but cannot do anything for foreigners, as they have no access to the system to enter passport data"
means that they can help the customer by sending the appropriate SMS to the Telkcomsel numbers. Not everyone feels comfortable to do that. At the GraPARI, I saw more than one queuing to be helped to register their SIM card, and they were Indonesian. Simply "telephonically illiterate".
About using the data of some local, there is the problem of the max 3 SIM cards per person.
Yes, Indonesia found the way to make a simple thing complex.
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Originally Posted by BFOMF5
KTP=kartu Tanda Penduduk=Resident Identity Card
KK=kartu keluarga=family card
Used to authenticates KTP.
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Still I do not understand the need of the second card. In no other country of the world I have seen a second "family card" used to authenticate the Identity Card. What is the purpose of this second card? Authenticate in what sense?
May you explain? I feel lost with Indonesian burocracy.