[Kualalumpur]

Originally Posted by retsoor

After years of intensive study @ sammyboyforum, having progressed through the distinguished ranks of con gai viet, I am finally about to seduce an upper-middle class girl.

Her father has a nice car, brother has a good job...in brief, pillars of society. The type of people who usually do not at all like that their goodlooking, tall young daughter goes out with foreigners.

Well I keep my fingers crossed, I know I am almost there.

In hell ?

I have experience with the "high high" class girls in Viet Nam. Official working with huge salary ( about 20x the standard Viet Nam salary), her parents wealthy like crazy. Several houses, bmw cars with drivers, the house in Nha Trang, the other one in Sa Pa, a couple in Saigon, etc... She was gorgeous, well educated, had 1 daughter from a previous wedding ( and divorce, because her husband was mongering whilst she was pregnant blabla) with someone who has been a minister.

I have lived with her for a year and a half, she was out of reach at first, then we made concrete decision to engage, and wedding. I visited her family with my family to make the details for the wedding, I was very welcome by all her family and friends. I was disturbed by her friends though because they were similarly wealthy, gorgeous, well educated, high salary. Their acts were borderline, some were married and had another boyfriends and so on.

She was going to Saigon for official meetings, to Australia and to Japan to prepare some big contracts.

Sometimes I complained, because I did not understand enough vietnamese, but her handphone was full of professionnal contacts, including T.Y. ( according to her a cousin or later I found "Tinh Yeu...") that was calling a lot, and another "A." ( anh, maybe to make difference).

2 days after my request for the wedding, accepted, I visited by surprise her parent's house, to bring quite a lot of presents. A half vietnamese half australian went out, and we discussed a little bit, as I am westener. I felt something fishy, I did not mention too much, but he was sad because her family forced her to marry an asshole. She was engaged with this man for 6 years, made him suffer like hell, had another boyfriend too in Japan, but he loved her so much, and at last for the last 2 years or so ( Japan byebye, carrot hello !), they made projects, she was coming to see him a lot in Australia, and in Saigon when he was in Vietnam, and he was very happy that even if she has to marry, it is a fake wedding, and she will escape to stay with him. I will not tell the complete story, it is very, very long, but that's where I learned really about the lies of women.

I went to her parent house, they welcomed me as usual. The huge roses he brought were on the table, a letter with her name ( closed), and a box from a very expensive jeweler. I asked her parents, that's was a family viet khieu "ong" from Saigon that brought that to her, as he always does for many years, etc... My flowers from 2 days before, in the kitchen hidden.

The whole fuckin'freaking family being a band of liars with big smiles, their happiness to have me as a son in law soon, that I care of her daughter too. The former husband was so bad, drunk, karaoke, many prostittues without condoms, maybe could give to their daughter bad diseases, he had lots of girlfriends, etc... They could not guess, because he was high rank, wealthy, well educated, but a real bastard.

Her friends and relatives were quite strange, enjoying going with foreigner boyfriends, many different ones, but my ex-future-wife always complained that they are not serious ( and I remind, money was not a problem for them, they just wanted to show off with foreigners and have fun !).

A lot of comments, the boyfriend of that one offered to her a motorbike, why I did not do that for her? ("Cheap man" story, but higher level! She could buy 100 Piaggio next day by herself if she wish). Wealthy people want to show it, and if you engage like that, it is expensive restaurants ( not yet, but if it becomes more serious), expensive gifts, and compete with her friend's boyfriends. Very bad thinkings.

I tried to control her for a couple of weeks, not allowing her to go to Saigon without me, etc... but she always found a way to escape. Then I told her the truth, that I was aware about that. "That's her private" she replied, and I told her that a family is like this like that, not many men all around and a stupid husband.

She took her belt, fling it and broke my nose with the metal closure. Then she cried that I am selfish, the westeners must understand, it is like that in the west and the USA, look the films, the woman have boyfriends and it is normal, I hate her daughter for sure if I do not want the wedding anymore, I am a killer, I have no hearth, I want to destroy her life...

I let her crying, and left (to Bach Mai french hospital, nose still bleeding like crazy).

Just to warn you, sometimes people in Viet Nam have money because they are very fake, and very corrupt, and I think a karaoke girl would not have made as much damage as that girl.

I made a depression for 6 months after that, went down, and up again, but it has been very hard.

Life in Viet Nam is not easy, and the wealthy people can be honnest, or many times their brain can be just be like the karaoke girl next brothel, but so bad thinking that they could catch more money than the countryside karakoke prostitute. Beautiful outside and completely rotten to the bone.

So be careful bro with your "middle-high class girl", and watch everything. Before being engaged too much, think about the origin of the family money, if they are wealthy compared to their income, more, less... If you do not have the reply about the money question, drop the case.

A small detail, too many sms, something unexplainable, and you must run away, no explanations, no thinkings. They can be more terrible than the poor countryside girl, and all her friends were of the same type, makes quite a few in Hanoi already.

A year later, I met by chance her stupid, drunk, alcoholic, sex-addict husband. We had a discussion, and he found the same problems as me, but when she was already married with him, and 5 months pregnant.

She had 1 boyfriend ( vietnamese), beating her husband every evening, screaming, shouting at him, locking the house door so he had to sleep at the hotel. He was not drunk, sex addict, or otherwise. She divorced when her child was 2 months old. She did not ask much money to the husband, she had a "sample" from the other powerful family with her child, no need for the money, power was enough. With that children, she could do whatever she wants in Viet Nam, ask anything, it would be granted. Supreme power. The children cared for by her parents, so no hassle for her, 1 bonk, few hours in the hospital, and fake with friends that she loves her child, care, etc...

Other than that, all people who have seen her admit she is "gorgeous, wonderful, well-educated", and if you meet her, you would fall in love immediately.