My Failures

[Chinapuss]

All of us have failures in or at one point of our lifetime...we always learn de hard way....nyway, a nice write up...Cheers!

[vinsc]

”How I was donked in Viet” part 1

This is another stupid encounter which has happen just barely 2 years after my first encounter in the same country Vietnam. I am not saying this is a dangerous place, that is a nice place for travel seriously. The girls there are also jude and pretty. But frankly now you asked me, I don’t really dare venture and play with fire there already. I would just go there for tour that’s for sure. It a nice place for tour. However if you asked me about playing with fire there, I think you need a local guide. This second encounter I found out that playing there is not like here. In Singapore where it is your territory, when things happen you don’t have the fear in you. Cause you know where you are, you know how to get out. And next you know the police can surely help you in a sense. Most of the time OKTs here are quite businessman, you pay the right amount you get the correct time frame. They rarely find ways to cheat more than is stated. Unless the WL use KC, the occasionally photo don’t look like real person and all.

However, overseas it’s different. Once you realise the game they are playing you half the time know you have to play along. Cause you don’t know where you are (i.e. you may not be able to get back to the hotel.). Going to the police may incur you more losses. Imagine they ask for money to investigate your case, they decided to lock you up and ask you to contact someone to bail you. Whatever it is, the fear is there and it is this fear that they are preying on. They know once you fear, you relent.

Back to the story…..

Two years on I have joined another company, this faithful day I was again asked into my boss office. And he goes. Hey Mark, you know this agent company that we had used for a year. I want you to go down to their office in Vietnam and do an audit on their documentations. Then inform them of any shortcomings. You know if we don’t arrest any documentation problems early it’s gonna be hard to enforce or find back the information necessary. I said oh when so you want me to set off? And whats your plan in mind? My boss replied, I want you to do a through check and I think 3 days seems good. If their system is bad, you advice them too how they can smoothen their process. If you can I hope you can sent them a email to check with them if you can go next Tuesday, as we have an important meeting on Monday which I want you to attend. I was thinking since I am going to be there Tuesday to Thursday/ Friday I would like to extend the weekends and be back Sunday evening. Take the two days to catch up old friends and revisit the places. Never was I to know this will come into another silly mistake.

Tuesday came and I set off with another colleague, Jessica. Don’t get the wrong idea, Jessica is a pretty sweet girl. The kind that has no lack of suitors. She is friendly but will only take me as a colleague, this story will have no development between me and her. We arrived in the morning and our guide suggest that we go check in to the hotel, then lunch before going to office. Work went well, and I travel with Jessica to decent places at night to relax and by 12 we are usually back in the hotel (separate room). Friday was the day we are suppose to go back as I have extended I only need to get back on Sunday. I thought what a good deal, I only need to pay for hotel and can stay 2 more days and have fun. I check out with Jessica as I need to check in to a cheaper hotel (my own expenses mah). I passed her a soft copy of the report regarding what we have done these few days and told her I would also email it to my boss. With the guide, I sent her to the airport and almost jump sky high, thinking what fun I am going to have.

[vinsc]

”How I was donked in Viet” part 2

I travelled around the city and has the fun of my life meeting up my friends there. Friday night I met a lady (one of the staff of the company I am auditing). Purely just dinner and some pub for music, very decent again. Nothing happen and then Saturday she brought me around. She went back at 3pm in the afternoon biding goodbye as I guess we won’t see each other anymore and I am sure to be back Sunday afternoon. I contact another male friend who told me he will bring me to have “FUN” tonight. I was already getting impatient. This is my second time here and other than the first which end up losing $$ I have not venture to these places. I told myself I cannot be come viet 2 times and never try any viet girls. Like that die also cannot close eyes.

At the age of 26, and not well travelled. I am virtually a sitting duck waiting for the rifles. I met my friend at the hotel as he just bought a car, he has a family now and motorbikes are not suitable for him. We drove around and come to a pub that is in old western style, kind of like the western bar kind of feel. Waitress is in cowboy hats and short shirt that expose the stomach with a super tight and short demin shorts. He told he we can get some drinks here and chat, while listening to the life band (Filipinos). There were foreigners there and he figured it was a safe place. By 12 am nothing happen, the waitress was talking to us but probably didn’t seems like the kind you can bring out.

Inside me I was a bit upset. (Shit I am going home without some fun again??? This friend probably thought I was pretty decent, why freaking bring me to a decent place for what??? It’s my last night leh….)

Anyway his wife called and he said he might have to go back. He offered to sent me back to the hotel. I said nah.. IT’s ok I will make my way back. I thought if I can get him to go back, I can see if my luck improves. I mean when they realise you have a local with you Butterflys don’t come. He said ok, maybe later just take cab back to hotel. I said it will be ok and he left. The place closed at 1:30am. I still have no luck by then, pissed I down my last beer and walk out of the bar with the others. I look to the left and saw a landmark near my hotel, It is a tall building. I figured if I walk in that direction, I may reach in 15 minutes. So I told myself I ain’t wasting money on cab and will route march back using the landmark as my guide.

I walked along the street still pissed that I am going home with nothing. I didn’t realise I would soon go home with something (many lost items). I walked to a stretch of the road where it was rather dark, however the opposite side which is like a park is still brightly lit. In Singapore I have never been afraid of walking past short stretch of dark places. I mean if I can see light in front I am usually not afraid to walk through. BUT THIS IS NOT SINGAPORE….2 ladies in bike drove past me and ask if I like to go with them. One of them was about 22 and the other maybe 30. A part of me hesitated, but remembering my first encounter, I said “NO” instinctively and walk on past them. They drove past me again and block the way again with the bike. The older girl say look, young girl very cheap, 40 dollars one hour, we drive you to hotel, you fuck her, then she go. I started to think if they going to do it in the hotel, I mean the hanky panky is like very hard right??? They can’t be asking ppl to wait in the hotel for me anyway it’s the hotel I book. IF she follow me to the hotel nothing can be said. Probably my small head took over control. I said, ok ok…SGD 40 1 hour??? The older lady said. No no… USD…. I then said “then it’s ok”… to expensive… She then relent saying okok SGD 40, ok ok no problem. I got on the bike with the younger lady, and told her my hotel name. The older lady say she will take another motorbike-taxi back to her place.

The bike move and soon I realise she was not going to the direction of my hotel, it’s near but not there. So I said, hey wrong wrong, she replied, no no your hotel dangerous, I bring you to hotel nearby ok ok…after fucking you can walk back… I was like shit ok…since the hotel we arrive was really near my hotel, 2 street away I figured it’s ok… I know where I am and can walk back later. We went up to the room and started the shower. Then she asked me to pay money first. I thought it was weird but thought damn SGD40 fuck it… I paid and she begain to massage me…then the older lady came and the younger lady open the door for her. I was surprised when she same to massage me also. I thought she was just here to take something from the girl. When she started to massage me I said. No no no… I want one not two… I have no more money…. She said… no no okok… 2 person SGD 40 ok… We like you… (Like real, in my life no girl has ever tell me she like me, you think I am brat pitt ah…With my looks nobody will be instantly attracted to me one… and I know it…) So I said no no I want one… (I didn’t want them to hanky panky later saying that I should pay another SGD40 for a 30 year old chick.). The 30 yr old then replied… ok ok don’t worry ok… you want one okok… I massage you cause she no good massage then after massage I go she fucking with you ok??? I thought ok if that’s the case so be it… Sensing I didn’t have any problem… she continued her massage, with a lot of slapping and twisting my head to the right away from my stuff at the table on the left and corner.

Imagine a room, if you lie on the bed facing to wall and if the bed is on the right corner. Your eyesight will be totally blinded to what happen on the left corner where wtour feet is pointing. If you know what I mean… Which mean the totally opposite corner of the right corner at the other end. See below…

....................................My head








My stuff....................................

I didn’t know that while I was being massaged the young girl was already taking things from my stuff. My handphone was replaced by a wood block that is shaped just like my phone. My money taken and my gold chain which I had removed as my friend said it was dangerous. I had removed it in the car earlier and placed it in my pocket. It only took 2 minutes or less and the slapping massage was to distract me of any sound the young lady will make. Soon the older lady said ok now I go… and the younger lady came towards me. As soon as the older lady went out the door knocked again… very urgently the older lady and another man was saying… Police come faster faster change… The older lady was putting on the clothe for me in a very fast motion.… I gave them a pissed look, as I know this is just a fucking game. I had lost another SGD 40 for nothing… just a stupid massage and bath…. If there is a police they would have run like fuck still help me change??

I decided I was again too tired to argue, upset and angry I thought fuck the 40 SGD. As I knew it, when we arrive downstairs the man and the lady got on 2 bikes and flee. I knew there wasn’t any police. I looked at the direction of my hotel and walked back, ANGRY like hell… When I was just 2 minutes to my hotel, I decided to take a look at my phone. It was when I realise it was just a wooden block. Fuck, that phone cannot be be bought without contract. To replace it means I have to get another contract. I went back to the hotel dailed my number and realised the phone was switched off. When I was at my room I realise my money of 70 SGD was also missing from my wallet and my gold chain was gone. I am damn sure I didn’t drop the gold chain on the way back or the rush because it was in a deep pocket with zip.

I got fucking pissed and called singtel the next day to cancel my line. When I got back I replaced my phone.


Lesson learn.

Total amt spend : SGD40 (paid to young girl initially) + SGD 600 (replace phone with contract, the contract is SGD29 per month for 2 years) + SGD 70 (money stolen) + SGD 250 (gold chain)= SGD 960 plus 2 years contract of 29 = SGD1656

Total return : a bike ride from pub to nearer my hotel + 2 or 3 minute massage and a Shower.

Return on investment: negative and bang balls.

[tigershark75]

Bro,

A suggestion for you. If a deal sound too good to be true in foreign land, most probably it will be a scam. Had covered Asia with my foot print and sticked to my motto, so far so good.

[vinsc]

Thanks to all brothers who have upped me.. I will upped you back when I have the chance.

AS you can see now I have totally being conned of SGD2546. This money as some of you will know in sing, I can overnight some chicks at some stable 10 times.

The most memorable one was the last viet trip... I really feel like punching myself at the stupidity and up till now I didn't dare tell anyone. I mean come on I also go EGO. It's bad enough to not look good, to get conned for sgd 1600 plus plus was indeed sucky. I never lost so much in a night before.

Imagine if I use it to buy shares now.. I think I can earn until xiao... I was really sian for a while after that. But I kept telling myself, at least they didn;t injure me or anything like that. Just take the money lost as helping me to advert a big disaster.

Through this three major lessons I now realize that when the thing sound really cheap and too good to be true. IT probably is. It is frankly due to my thinking of getting a cheap deal that lure me into the stupid trap and got myself Knocked.

To:bro vertikal

Thanks yeah that how the sleazy world is. but there is still good ones that do it like a business. but well the problem is hard to tell who is good or bad until you try, thats probably why this forum is good as most brother who post fr can help to minimize some of this.

To CQueen

Thanks for your comments too, like I said earlier I didn't came out stronger until the 1600 plus SGD lost viet trip. maybe the first trip didn't lost enough, but now I really wake up liao...

To:whitegals

yeah thanks bro for he encouragement... maybe you can also share with us so we know what tricks they play.

To: boundThunter

Thanks for the encouragement. Yeah we have to learn and sometimes the school fees really make you learn

To: simple2kee

Thanks, Well I will write 2 more story (the hangzhou and thailand one) after this 3rd story which I just posted. The other 2 are my friend's encounter. cause frankly I never being to these 2 place before.

To: magichat

Thanks, I wish you would never encounter.

To:jennytan

Thnaks, Well the forum helps as nobody outside or my friend know my nick in the forum. so easier to share.

To: VanGogh

Thanks for the encouragement. you rock too...

To: jinrenhe

Thanks, haha maybe life is a bed of roses, just that some get to smell the nice smell, some get to see the beauty and some like me just f£$%ing get pricked by the thorns. It's just that different ppl get different part of the rose.

To: centaur

Thanks, yah hoepfully when we get older we get wiser.

To: Chinapuss

Thanks, yah after you fall down and bleed then you know how to watch the road when you walk I guess... hahaha

and to all brothers who have read, I thank you for reading too.

I might be busy next week during the weekdays with assignment. I will try to write and complete the 2 story to give this thread a closure. If I can't write I will write it next weekend.

Thanks once again to all. Cheers

[satanic89]

learn from mistakes...

[simple2kee]

i do agree with bro Chinapuss tht all of us have had experienced failures. we learned from it & emerged stronger.

camp here for more real-life stories.

[Rollzoyce]

Bro TS, lesson learnt. Everyone has some negative experience here and there... Your lesson will also be good for samsters here to learn from it.

[haha_123]

Bro vinsc, i broke out in cold sweat when i read your story. Last time in HCMC, I was also followed by 2 ladies in a motorbike, along Dong Khoi St. They were very persistent in "wanting to have a good time with me". I was very scared and went to hide in a hotel lobby along the same street. I only came out 15 mins later and was mightily relieved that they had already gone.

Anyway, appreciate your sharing of your experience. Just treat it as a lesson learnt. Cheers...

[scorpion65]

[QUOTE=haha_123;4103925]Bro vinsc, i broke out in cold sweat when i read your story. Last time in HCMC, I was also followed by 2 ladies in a motorbike, along Dong Khoi St. They were very persistent in "wanting to have a good time with me". QUOTE]

I have travelled to HCMC quite frequently on business or personal, have encounter the girls on bike too soliiciting. The girls on bike always target those guys that walk alone at night. The temptations are always there but the risk may be too high. Wherever they take you, you will be at their mercy, and the language barrier where nobody understand you even if you shout for help. The safest way, although it may not be cheaper option, can get help from the bellboy of budget hotel for finding girl if your need is unstoppble.....

[cablesnwires]

Bro vinsc,

Thank you for sharing your stories. It is very refreshing and down to earth. However, I would also like to suggest that you share with us about your successes as well, so as to make this thread more balanced.

[Tryplay]

Hi bro Vinsc, most educated FR........

That why i always check sammyboy forum before i go on a oversea attachement, cheers.....

[AhMin]

Very Good insight and sharing.
Up your Courage.

[vinsc]

Story 4)”I thought I found a Hang Zhou wife”

This story relates a clips frm one of my buddy history. A secret which I think he hopes we will all forget. It was back in the days when we all came out to the society for work after our stint in Guards and University. We are lucky to find a job soon, but for me I guess my looks suffer due to the vocation. My face is now similar to a beehive and that is why I never believed anyone who told me I am handsome.

Ken was different. He is the kind who seems to have a flawless face even though we had sometimes never washed our faces for days due to training. Pimples never seems to like his face. Anyway as Ken has little time for his girlfriend, he lost her to another guy who was, well probably more free and had more $$. He grew sad obviously as he has spend almost easily more than 10000 dating her for the last 5 years. Ok heres the end of my story. Total lost 10000 and 5 years dating with no sex.

Hahaha…sorry lame joke… Works too stress I became cranky…No I haven’t touch the main point of the story yet. It’s not the end.

Anyway after losing her gf, he felt it hard to trust woman. That’s what he says and the buddies in camp (will call them BIC for short thereafter) decided to bring him to KTV to unwind. As Ken was a person who was always doing what her GF tells him, BICs decided that ok in KTV, the girls do what you tell instead. But for $$$ of course. We went on Friday night. They brought him to one high chick place and it was there he meet Kuan. Kuan was a sweet lady maybe 25? He was kind of Assigned to Ken. And since the BICs decided to cheer him up. We thought we just freaking come out with some $$ and paid off the clock for Kuan so that Ken can bring her out.

By now everyone should have Hotel 81, Fragrance in mind. Just like us. But No, hell no Ken brought Kuan in his car to beach and talked till morning. Thereafter they had breakfast and checked in to a 5Star hotel. Any idiot would know Ken must have pour out his sorrows about his failed relationship to Kuan. And Kuan must have reciprocated with her hard life story and how she ended up in this line, how bad some customers were and the blah blah blah….. anyway what we know we didn’t hear from Ken until Sunday night. Apparently, what he told us later Kuan called in sick for Saturday night and they were in the world of their own from Saturday afternoon to Sunday afternoon in the 5 Star hotel. Ken said he clicked well with Kuan and being 2 sad souls they had a lot to talk and soon found they really like each other. That’s when they decided on Saturday morning during breakfast, they would go home changed get more clothes and check in to a paradise to have the world to the 2 of them.

Being in the game for a while, Some of the BICs warned. Hey Ken, you are in one of the Low moments of your life. We bring you to play not to fall in love. Be careful, it ok to spend the night or even another night but remember we are playing. And like all game we have to game over once the time is up. The longer you play the more dangerous. Another BICs said “ The first rule of a player is to remember, “ We all come out and play one, must know when to switch off, of not we pay a high price if we are addicted”. Ken retorted “ No Kuan is different, I am not playing with her and she is not playing with me. She understand me, she knows how I feel. She say I am a nice man and she will not let go of me, she was even willing to no go work just for me. She was better than my ex GF.” You all introduced me to her, why now you are all asking me to distance her.

Instantly, the BICs knew a trouble tea was brewing. They called me down and we all share with him our experiences. He won’t listen. We know he was at this down moments and this Kuan must have seen the weak point and used her KC. She is now like the angel from heaven to Ken. No way, can we stop him. A Buddy of mine in BIC went to had a talk with Kuan, but was given the answer she is serious about Ken. Ken was furious and of course asked us not to meddle with his affairs. He was 26, old enough to know what is right or wrong. So we told him ok, we say all we could it’s all up to you. We will not asked anymore. Still buddies, we cheers and from then on, needless to say almost all our outings has Kuan & Ken as some of it was at the KTV.

This went on even further when Ken asked Kuan to move into his house after a month of hot love. He lied to his mum this was his new GF. He sold his car to lessen his spending and used to money to pamper Kuan. 2 months into the relationship, Kuan mention she wants to be back to visit her parents whom she had not seen for a while. Ken suggested to visit Kuans parents together. He wanted to see her life there and also help her parents. Kuan rejected and say it might not be the time yet. She would just go back for a week and be back. Ken suggest that he could have visit her parents asked for her hand and married her, so she can apply for PR and not be using her work pass. Kuan say it was too soon. She would go back this time to hint to the parents, and maybe he can follow on her next trip.

Fast forward…. Of course during the time when Kuan was back home, telephone every night and blah blah blah…

Kuan came back after a week and was sad. Things has happen in her family and she was helpless with no money. Father had an accident in the farm and need to hospitalized. Mum was old with kidney problem. The life of her was pathetic and shitty. Needless to say Ken offered to be the knight in the shining Armor. He gave her 8000 to remit home and Kuan mention she would need to make another trip back to settle the issue as her sister was still young and She has to be back to get things right.

Ken offered to follow and mention he would take leave to go with her. It was refused. She didn’t want Ken to be bothered and wants him to concentrate in his job. She booked the ticket and would leave next week. But unknown to Kuan, Ken went online and booked another ticket intending to follow Kuan, (I don’t know how he did it but according to rumours, he had actually booked a business class ticket, in order to check in later, check out earlier and won’t be seen when he goes to the toilet.) but anyway he managed to follow Kuan and was disappointed needless to say. What exactly happens nobody in the BICs could confirm. Ken only told bits or pieces to different individual when we asked later. As after coming out to work, the BICs became busy, group out was like once a year and not all can make it sometimes. Unless there is wedding or Funeral then we will see a complete group. So among the cliques we would sometimes meet in smaller groups.

Piecing the small bits of information together, It seems that, Ken had a shocked of his like life at the Airport when he saw Kuan being picked up by another man, and they hug. He followed them and later realize she had only stay in the house with this man. There wasn’t any family. Where did the family go? Nobody knows. Ken probably confronted them but must have gotten the answer he was just too dumb to be cheated or something along that way.

Ken returned with a devastated heart. He must have spend almost 13000 in all on this woman, the airticket, the daily expenses for 2 months, the 8000 dollars. He got a return of like maybe bonks with GFE, and a lady which he was almost ready to marry.

But what I think was really lost was the heart on knowing the truth. In a span of maybe 3 months he had to go thru 2 break ups. IT took Ken another 4 years before he actually broke of this and now he is with another local GF which I think they will be marrying soon. This secret of Kuan was one he has informed us never to mention in front of his current GF.

I wish him all the Best…..

[jameswood]

bro vinc,i enjoy your stories,very well written and interesting,but feel sorry for you at the same. Hope same thing dont ever happen to you again.cheer.